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I agree with your comments. It is a reflection of the culture. Of course, even with a good culture in place there will always be the stray negative person every once and a while. But I see an occasional negative comment as a good thing because it gives the company an opportunity to address the negativity and often that results in more employee satisfaction in the long run.

Kia ora Michele!

An interesting perspective here in your post.

While its seems much like semantics, the terms 'appropriate' and 'negative' do tend to have a fair degree of subjectivity associated with them.

I recall an occasion when I was on a team building exercise with the Training and Development Unit that I worked in at that time. We had all agreed to follow consensus on issues.

I spoke up and was applauded for bringing to the forum the idea that we should first define exactly what consensus meant. It was not an easy discussion that followed. But we eventually agreed to define it in terms similar to, "agreeing to 'go along with' the team on an issue".

Eventually we began to attack our agenda and the first item brought us round in another long discussion over matters that were of a fiercely moral nature.

I disagreed with the majority but agreed that the consensus should be followed in the subsequent courses of action in the team.

During the next discussion, I stated that though I did not agree with the issue I was willing to follow democratically. Whereupon two members halted the conversation by pointing out that the team had agreed to follow consensus.

I fell about laughing. That didn't go down too well either, for I was seen to be flippant and 'negative'. My immediate reaction was to firmly state that though I agreed to follow consensus on issues, I certainly was not going to change my opinion on these matters. That was tantamount to being brainwashed and was not respecting my right to have an opinion.

Later that week, my manager spoke with me about the Corporate scene, referring to the matter to do with consensus and my clear stance that following consensus did not mean following opinion.

It was then that I realised how naive I could be.

It was quite naive of me to think that there should be any difference between having an opinion and agreeing to follow action by consensus based on the differing opinion of the group. To this day I have never been able to rationalise that. Not even in terms of it being in a corporate environment.

When it comes to matters where being 'negative' is an issue, I always quote Carl Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit.

Is it really being 'negative'? Or is it just that there is a difference of two perfectly respectable and valid opinions, where one person is willing to state the opinion and the other is unwilling to accept it?

Ka kite
from Middle-earth

Hi Jonathan--I agree with you that some negative comments in an online community are not a bad thing. They definitely give you an opportunity to understand some issues you might not otherwise receive feedback on. Which actually leads to Ken's comment. . .

Ken, you make a good point about that"inappropriate" or "unprofessional" are subjective terms and that often you can have genuine disagreement about ideas that some would call "inappropriate," or "inappropriate for this forum."

What would be nice is if people could have some meta-conversations about how they're defining inappropriate online behavior within an organization, as that would lead to some learning about what is/isn't discussed. It's the rare organization that can do this, but if you could push through, it seems there would be tremendous value in it.

Excellent post Michele. During the last four years working with students online I have only come across one inappropriate episode. It was an error of judgement on the student's part and the moment was resolved. You are quite right, when issues do surface in a community it is symptomatic of deeper issues.
I am amazed by the quality of the exchanges I have witnessed whilst blogging and communicating with other educators. Cheers, John.

John, I suspect that the student's error in judgment was actually a great learning opportunity, too. If we're ready for these things, I find that social media can actually create some great teachable moments that allow us to deepen our understanding of each other and ourselves in the context of community and learning.

Excellent read!!I think its a reflection of the culture.If Positive peoples are found then we will find negative peoples too,but considering negative peoples once a while, will help the company for its better growth.

Quite correct Michele. The students and others connected to the event did learn a great deal. It actually forged new bonds that were most productive. The student has gone on to be an excellent photographer.
Cheers, John

So true. If it wasn't goofing off using these tools it would be something else, probably more covert.

This is a hiring problem, not a tool problem.

In hindsight, I was deterred by internet communities, because I didn't like the ease at which people could flame each other. When I discovered wiki in 2002, it was exciting, because people in the wikis I was involved in, used their real names and were constructive. I personally think that the technology/philosophy of an online tool plays into the dynamics also.

Michele,

Excellent insights. I think one of the key things with the WL ning community vs. an open community like FaceBook or MySpace is not that it voluntary (they all are), but that it is focused and populated by people who have similar interests, if not similar opinions on those interests. (Ka kite's discussion of opinion and consensus is great as well.)

Unfortunately, to people not familiar with using these social networking tools within a community, for a specific purpose, the random ramblings on the well known "public" communities are all they know about social networking.

Excellent post, Michelle, and I think you're right on the money. People will demonstrate the same cultural tendencies online as they do off-line - only perhaps more so. Rude people remain rude. Pushy people remain pushy. Arrogant people remain arrogant. Kind people do not suddenly turn into vicious harpies. Encouraging people do not suddenly turn negative and destructive. In fact, I have often wondered if someone were to read the pseudonymous contributions of someone they know, whether they would recognise that person.

I know Janet Clarey says she is shy in person and assertive online, but I suspect that her assertive online self, still observes the social mores established by her shyer physical self.

Excellent post Michele!!I personally think that if we're ready to make use of great learning opportunity,i am sure that our social media will help us buy creating some great teachable moments which inturn helps us to understand each other and ourselves better in relation to the community and learning.

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